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He was the hinge to the greatest tragedy and missed opportunity in our history and the damage is ongoing. I’d disagree with Jon about Andy Johnson for that reason. Jon: I think Johnson damaged it quite a bit, though he himself did not end it. Ezekiel: And I think people conflate that with damage to the country.

Ed: Nixon did some serious damage to the presidency, of course. Eric: If you factor in moral conventions of the time, and just what a holistically bad person Trump is — the vanity, intellectual vacuity, greed, lack of taste, in-eloquence, racism, the sheer, effervescent virulence of his misogyny … Ed: If Trump gets to pick another SCOTUS member, and another 30 judges or so, his long-term negative impact will go way up. Jon: By the way, it’s pretty typical of Will that he buried his case for Trump as the worst president as the final line of his column, and did not bother to include even a single sentence worth of substantiation. Olivia: But, and correct me if I’m wrong, Trump’s SCOTUS pick, and judges, are probably not different than who, like President Ted Cruz or President Carly Fiorina (remember when they were a ticket? Ed: Yes, and for that reason Ted Cruz would have ranked pretty high on the Bad Presidents list as well.

(Johnson would have a decent argument, too.) He just hasn’t done enough damage yet.

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